Saturday, October 18, 2008

Greater Cleveland Young Republicans shine in local debate

While the democrats and MSM keep up their attacks on the now temporarily famous - "Joe the Plumber," they show how much they REALLY care about the working men and women in America. Just because the poor guy doesn't agree with Barack O'Robin Hood's socialist tax hikes - the full frontal assault on Joe continues.

While "Joe the Plumber" was being introduced to the world in the last debate - we had our own "Joe the Conservative" standing down the local democrats during a pre-debate that took place at Pickwick & Frolic in downtown Cleveland. But this "Joe the Conservative," President of the Greater Cleveland Young Republicans, was not alone.

In a McCainesque fashion, "Joe the Conservative" came loaded for bear and was joined on stage by fellow GCYR member, Candice Miller. Like John & Sarah - Joe & Candice gave a sound thrashing to the local Obamaites representing the Cuyahoga County Dumbacrats.

From the Plain Duller --

"I'm fighting for McCain because I don't want socialist policies. I don't want to be carrying everyone on my back," said Joe Amschlinger, 30, president of Greater Cleveland Young Republicans.

Amschlinger earned applause from several tables when he talked about ending the entitlement mentality.

"You want to go to grad school? Sorry, you're going to sacrifice for it," he said. "It's not a matter of saying, 'I'm owed this, I deserve this.' "

Not about to let the Obamacrats hang the current financial crisis on the Republicans - Miller put an audience member in their place...

An audience member asked the Republicans if they take responsibility for the Wall Street meltdown, Republican Candice Miller, 25, offered an unapologetic no. Clinton-era policies spawned the problems with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, she said, and Alan Greenspan also deserves some blame for being "too loose with money."

"You want me to say, 'Oh, it's our fault,' when it's not," Miller said.

Not a single deregulation bill that would have affected the subprime situation was passed during the eight-year Bush administration, she said.

I couldn't have said it better myself!

Good job Joe & Candice - it is about damn time we can be proud of some local conservatives!


  1. Forget the character attacks, however deserved or not. Let’s deal with the actual issue that was raised. Here’s a relevant excerpt from the conservative Wall Street Journal’s article of OCTOBER 17, 2008, 'As Joe the Plumber Grows Famous, the Politics Get Murkier':

    "To reach a level that would be affected by Sen. Obama’s proposed tax increase, Mr. Smither said, a mom-and-pop plumbing company like Newell would have to clear $5 million in annual sales. [Joe’s company actually reports only $100,000 in sales.]

    Even if Mr. Wurzelbacher reaped taxable income from his business of $280,000 a
    year, he'd pay only about $900 more a year in taxes under Sen. Obama's plan, which
    would raise the tax rate on the income between $250,000 and $280,000 to 36%
    from 33%.


    If Mr. Wurzelbacher earns the wages of a typical Ohio plumber, $40,600, and holds a $90,000 mortgage, he would see a TAX CUT (emphasis added) under Sen. Obama's plan of more than $1,000, compared with no tax reduction under Sen. McCain's.

    If he succeeds in buying the plumbing business where he works, he could see even more tax benefits, including Sen. Obama's proposed elimination of capital-gains taxes for small-business investment, a 50% tax credit to purchase health insurance for employees and a $3,000 tax credit for every new hire over the next two years."

    Other issues and ‘things we wish were true’ aside, better to acknowledge facts and deal with them objectively.

  2. However what you fail to talk about is that once these taxes on big business are increased, big business will make up for them by fixing their bottom line to cover the losses.

    It does not take an economics or financial professor to tell you the easiest way to fix the bottom line of a big business is to cut salaries. What does it mean to cut salaries? It means to lay people off.

    You watch...these big evil businesses are going to lay people off by the thousands due to these tax hikes. If they need the workers...what will they do? They will seek employees elsewhere (meaning in aother country). This has nothing to do with NAFTA and everything to do with high corporate taxes.

  3. Thanks Dave!

    Let me add this...

    It is a slippery slope we begin on. First $250,000, then Obama realizes he cannot pay for the programs he promised the left. Then throw in his well publicized "spread the wealth" comment to Joe the Plumber and what then - his $250K drops to $200K, then $150K, etc...

    Obama gives with one hand and takes away with the other.


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